So both strongholds are illegal for Legacy too?

Not sure where this ruling is from. A link would be helpful in figuring out where its from.

I'm assuming this statement was made in the context of CE play and would consider both strongholds to be legal for Legacy.

If in doubt consult the Legacy banned card list.

Well that looks pretty explicit to me.

AEG have banned the cards themselves.

They might cease to be mentioned as such once the Celestial bug rotates out. But for now AEG says they're banned.

I would argue that the page deals exclusively with CE so the bans should be considered for CE only.

We should seek a clarification.

Naah,let it stand. CE's just a couple of months anyway.

I dunno Ken. Looks pretty explicit to me. Of course local TO's can do what they want, but our official stance would have to tow the line.



Assuming you mean EE, yeah, there's going to be a turn over soon. And I don't think the ban will stand afterwards. And if their official stance on them stay the same, then we'll see what we can do.

Honestly, I think the whole "paying costs for entering play" thing on older cards is a bigger issue. But I can't count my own voice for taking a council vote, being the leader of the council means some level of impartiality outside of the actual votes.

Hi,


Please tell me since when Legacy events have been AEG sanctioned L5R tournaments.

The only one sanctioned events I know are Celestial Legal until the Emperor Edition comes.

Regards,
Rémi.

Any event that receives prize support from AEG or is held at a Kotei qualifies.

Plus, we've been told not to step on their toes. So we can't contradict their rulings. And in return, they support us. Sounds good to me.

How about we *ask* how they feel about these two stronghold in Legacy?

Also, it's my opinion that we should not officially have them on the Legacy ban list (so players who want to play unsanctioned legacy can do so with just our ban list), but have a note instead that "In AEG-sanctioned legacy events, the current AEG banned list must also be followed".

IE, keep the two lists distinct.

IMPORTANT ADDITION

The two are now UN-banned in War of Honor events. We probably really should consult with AEG on the matter at the very least.

Where's Mac when you need him.

When we ban cards, we are doing so for the current format unless explicitly stated. Feel free to use any cards banned in CE in Legacy decks.

Okay, you heard it here people.

Bans are only enforced outside of the Arc If explicitly stated. They actually have to mention this fact to be banned any further.

Lost Traveller Castle and Sunrise Keep are legal outside of Celestial.

Nice to have you drop by again Bryan.

There will always be a warm spot in my heart for the Legacy Council.